In something that was probably really uncalled for Wayne Coyne, frontman for the Flaming Lips made some negative comments about Arcade Fire to Rolling Stone in a recent interview. He talks about how pompous the band really is and how they mistreat their fans at concerts, here is the whole rant:
I'm a fan of them on one level, but on another level I get really tired of their pompousness. We've played some shows with them and they really treat people like shit. Whenever I've been around them, I've found that they not only treated their crew like shit, they treated the audience like shit. They treated everybody in their vicinity like shit. I thought, "Who do they think they are?" I don't know why people put up with it. I wouldn't put up with it. I don't care if it's Arcade Fire or Brian Eno. If either of them walked into a room and treated people like shit I'd be like, "Fuck you, get outta here."He basically tears into Arcade Fire and Final Fantasy's Owen Pallet would not take any of it in his since removed tweet he wrote:
People treat Arcade Fire like they're the greatest thing ever and they get away with it. Those sort of opinions change my view of their music. They have good tunes, but they're pricks, so fuck 'em. Who does Arcade Fire think they are? I've been around groups. I've been around the Edge from U2 and he's the fucking sweetest guy ever. I was around Justin Timberlake when he was young and he was just a normal, nice, kind person. Anyone can be polite and kind and people who have the privilege and money and attention should understand that. If they don't, then fuck 'em.
Win might not be all hugs and rainbows and kittens, but neither is he drug culture, confetti, pot paraphernalia and bullshit.Win Butler's response is more diplomatic and he doesn't say anything negative about the Flamig Lips he just responded on the Arcade Fire site by saying:
This is all a bit unnecessary I don't understand why Coyne would make those comments. He has said some things about Beck who he toured with so I guess that just part of his personality...Wow,
I can't believe I am actually writing to defend my bands "real" personality. I wish I could not respond to something like this, but the reality is is that people will be asking me questions about it for the next 5 years. I also fear that people will base their opinion of our band on the media quotes of a guy who doesn't even know us.
The only time we have ever shared a stage with the Flaming Lips was our last show on the Funeral tour at a festival in Las Vegas (over 3 years ago)...we arrived the morning of the show from Brazil, slept all day and awoke into some kind of surreal Vegas jet-lag dream in which we were playing after the Flaming Lips...how strange...I was really excited to meet Wayne. Clouds Taste Metallic was a huge record for me, and growing up in the weirdness of Houston, I always imagined Oklahoma City to be in the same universe. I was really nervous to meet him and I felt a little weird that we were playing after them. We traded a little hello, but he was a hard guy to get a read on. Steven Drodz was super nice, and I felt good after talking to him...
So...I am not sure Wayne is the best judge (based on seeing us play at a couple of festivals) if we are righteous, kind and goodhearted people like The Edge and Justin Timberlake (who I am sure he knows intimately as well). I can't imagine a reason why we would have been pompous towards The Flaming Lips, a band we have always loved, on that particular night, all those years ago. Unless I was way more jet-lagged then I remember, I hope I was less of a "prick" then telling Rollingstone that a bunch of
people I don't know at all are really assholes.
As a closing note, the main point that I am offended by in this whole thing is for Wayne to say we treat our audience like shit...
At times like these I am comforted by knowing that even though Wayne slammed Beck all those years ago, he seems like a really nice guy to me. I guess everyone has a different idea of what being pompous means.
Win
Beck & The Flaming Lips - Devil's Haircut [zshare]
Arcade Fire - Headlights Look Like Diamonds (Alternate) [zshare]

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God, it's so rare that I get to leave positive feedback on any of the pisspoor Hypem blogs. Hey, great post! I can definitely relate to both Wayne & Win, as they certainly represent yin & yang or what-have-you. Some artists are just going to be moody fucks. Merely walk down the street, it's impossible for anyone out there to truly relate. Human beings are robots. Coyne was profiled in the NYTimes recently, and he just seems like one of those permacloudy kinda people. All I can say is praise the modern age for both the Lips and the Fire, 'eh? Yes, throw in some Beck & U2, and you've got a pretty solid rock arsenal. Booyah, if you're a creative genius, you're allowed to be a fuck, but you'll still be told to get the fuck out! As it should be.
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